LOS ANGELES - OCTOBER 2: Steve Finley #12 of the Los Angeles Dodgers drops his bat after hitting a ninth inning walk off grand slam home run against the San Francisco Giants on October 2, 2004 at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles, California. The Dodgers came from behind to win 7-3 and win the National League West. (Photo by Stephen Dunn/Getty Images) | Getty Images In case you missed it, the San Francisco Giants won their 8th baseball game of the 2026 season last night and scored 10 runs in the process just to make us all feel even better about it. It was their 20th game of the season, though, so there’s the whole matter of their 8-12 record.

Heading into the game, their 7-12 standing generated this comment from writer Wendy Thurm:This is why there’s gnashing of teeth. The Giants have declared they are a “postseason or bust” team at all times, even when they hire a rookie manager who doesn’t know a lick about spit and needs months — maybe even a full season — to get accustomed to managing a major league team. The team demands we pay attention to the results, and right now, the team is underperforming to an extent that they’re running into a the weight of MLB history when it comes to teams that have a bad start.

Now, the three Wild Card setup has certainly changed the math on playoff odds for teams with this sort of start and I would expect to see this list rise in the coming years, but let’s keep with the historical theme and expand the look at the Giants franchise that I did after their 3-7 start. In that post, I looked at three teams in the Oracle Park era that were able to turn things around. No, I won’t be looking at the current team’s standings and comparing to history every 10 games, but given their early struggles, it seems worth putting them in context for one of the winningest franchises in professional sports.

The Giants franchise has started a season 8-12 seventeen times and had just five winning seasons afterwards.Two things stand out with this list: The 100-loss 1985 team is not on it, which means the 2026 Giants might be winning their way out of that comparison finally — though, check back next week to see if they’re 10-15 or 11-16.Only twice in the Oracle Park era has the team overcome this start to have a winning record. I looked at the 2015 in some detail with the previous post about their 3-7 start, concluding:If the 2026 Giants got to 84-78, they’d be in a great position for a Wild Card spot.

All they need is a couple of MVP-type performances and a couple of All-Star caliber performances from the lineup, absent stellar pitching.But what can I say about the 2004 team (which started 5-5)? Well, the only thing I firmly remember about that season is reading in the newspaper (people under 50 don’t look up what that is) that the Giants had acquired Wayne Franklin near the end of Spring Training. And then I remember sitting along the first base line at Dodger Stadium on the penultimate game of the season and watching in the 9th inning defensive replacement Cody Ransom commit a critical error after Dustin Hermanson got squeezed, the Giants blow a 3-0 lead and Wayne Franklin surrender a walk-off grand slam to Steve Finley to knock the Giants out of the playoff race.So, personally, I hate the 2004 season and think any team that compares to it is haunted.

But also…That team had Barry Bonds on it. Therefore, you can’t really make a comparison or say something like, “See, the Giants have been in this situation before and it has worked out just fine. Tony Vitello is going to figure out how to manage and the team is going to iron out all its mental lapses and the bullpen will be solid” just because the 2004 team started 8-12 and wound up 91-71, more than enough to clinch a Wild Card in this era of baseball.

You can’t say that! It wouldn’t make sense!That 2004 team scored 850 runs! The 2021 squad didn’t even score that many (804).

They played stellar defense (+28.4 Defensive Runs Above Average, per FanGraphs). Their pitching was in the bottom third by fWAR (+12.7 — 21st) and 16th in ERA (4.34). The idea that the 2026 Giants will overcome mediocre pitching with top-5 hitting is a tough one to assert, just given the start.

But even if people hit to their career averages, the front office’s plan was the opposite: middling offensive boosted by stellar pitching. At the end of the day, of course, if the Giants got to 91 wins somehow, we’d all be thrilled, and rightfully so, even if it meant a crushing loss to end the run.By the way, the last three games of the 2026 season are at Oracle Park against the Dodgers.The other Oracle Park era teams don’t offer a lot of hope. 2008 was Tim Lincecum’s first year, the first year without Barry Bonds, and with the team still trying to solidify its pitching and defense identity. 2018 was Bobby Evans’ attempt to build a quasi-contender while dancing under the luxury tax line, so, the team added Andrew McCutchen and Evan Longoria and wound up having the worst month in franchise